Circa ups the stakes: a guaranteed $14 million for football contests

Unless I'm missing something DK has changed direction regarding the 50k contest. They added the 50k entry contest on July 19 and removed it this week. Having 0 entries may have been a factor.

SP if you Google DK 2023 football contests you'll find all the information.

SP I don't know if this qualifies as tearing down contests, but it seems that John Avello and his DK team cannot obtain much consistency with their contests.

Ah, "google it," should have thought of that, lol, thanks. So I can chill with the Solzhenitsyn bit for now.

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In this page, at least, the $50K level was still there . . . but it does carry that July 19 update date that you mention . . . so maybe it's an archived version that's not fully up to date. I didn't dig deeper into other hits in the Google search.

https://dknetwork.draftkings.com/fa...ickem-contest-official-rules-terms-conditions

But I'd have to win that MegaMillions prize to even think about that level.

Interesting concept to have the tiered buy-in levels all operating within the one overall contest.

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Re: tearing down, get a load of these provisions in the rules:

8. By entering or participating in the Contest, Contestants: (i) agree to refrain from acting as a brand ambassador for, and from in any way promoting or endorsing for commercial purposes, any company other than DraftKings; . . .; (v) agree, at all times while participating in the Contest, to use their best efforts to uphold the good name, image, and reputation of DraftKings and to refrain from making any statements or engaging in conduct that could damage or bring into disrepute the name, image, and/or reputation of DraftKings; and . . . .

(See also Rule 5, where they can can you as a contestant for any reason, "including but not limited to" things you'd of course rightfully expect like fraud.)

So you can't go on social media and say good things about another contest (depending on what a "brand ambassador" is)?

And you can't say anything negative about the DraftKings contest?

As a contestant? I can see such requirements for someone employed by DraftKings. But a contestant????

When I was practicing, I always admired the management executives who pushed back against lawyer nonsense in documents (as well as the senior lawyers who pushed back against that sort of thing in drafts presented by junior lawyers). Just because an over-caffeinated (or worse) lawyer can think it doesn't mean it properly should go in the final document.

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In that general vein, if the "say something good, but . . ." formulation is specific to lawyers, then some women must be lawyers at heart.

As in, "You're nice, but . . . ."

Nice guys don't finish last, they're not even in the game.

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Consistent with my earlier discussion, I do like that Avello and DFK ("they're nice . . . ") are leading the way with a multi-state pool in the 16 jurisdictions where they're licensed to book traditional sports betting.

Again, maybe they've overplayed their hand vis-a-vis the Wire Act, or possibly instead they've got a potentially viable legal rationale that gets by the Wire Act issue that perhaps should be considered by the SuperBook, Circa and Nevada gaming.

Nevada gaming did look in 2018 or so at bets being placed from other states into Nevada -- perhaps due to the Nevada gaming industry wanting to try to preserve and secure market share before sports betting really proliferated following the Supreme Court decision overturning PASPA.

But I'm not sure that the legal issue necessarily is the same with regard to a multi-state contest pool where sports betting is legal in each one of the states in the multi-state pool.

So, yeah, I'm going to be hopefully constructively critical (as opposed to scorched earth shrill) of what I'd like to see done better in football contests. But Avello, et al. at DraftKings get a hat tip on carrying the ball at the moment with multi-state contest pools.
 
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Sportsrmylife

EOG Master
Today is August 2nd and William Hill's website doesn't mention anything about a college football contest.
They announced this weeks ago.

Google will hill college football contest
500k guarantee

I take it their lack of promotion is them saying quietly they don't wanna do this or won't put one dollar into it's promotion as they dgaf
 

railbird

EOG Master
They announced this weeks ago.

Google will hill college football contest
500k guarantee

I take it their lack of promotion is them saying quietly they don't wanna do this or won't put one dollar into it's promotion as they dgaf
why should they, they get 90% of signups the last week. Good for them for not being attention whores like the very overrated Circa contests
 

Woodrow Wilson

EOG Dedicated
All I'm seeing is info from 2022. I hope they're having it again. I saw your post and also tuley has mentioned the signups were scheduled to begin August 1.
 

Woodrow Wilson

EOG Dedicated
SquarePants, fwiw despite Ohio being available for dk sportsbetting, the cats and survivor contests aren't an option for Ohio. I don't know why but they aren't. Also, despite the 50k contest still being listed at the link you managed to find, on the actual dk betting/contest platform it hasn't been listed since at least Monday afternoon. I'll look again Friday when I return to Michigan.
 

Woodrow Wilson

EOG Dedicated
Thanks sports.

Seeing the 500k guarantee remains, the longer they wait for signups the better. We can expect another overlay as I defend my co-title.
 

Sportsrmylife

EOG Master
I went to will hill casino to get a cfb contest application.

They are taking entries right now

They are upgrading the system for the contest and are unsure when it will be up.

Safe to say there will be a big overlay if they don't get this fixed by next week when all these betbash3 folks come to town
 

Woodrow Wilson

EOG Dedicated
DK still is offering the 50k contest.

Fwiw, 0 entries thus far.

The 50k contest didn't appear earlier this week, for I logged in while visiting DC. Which like Ohio, seems to have the odd designation of having legal sports betting, but are excluded from the DK season-long NFL contests.
 

Woodrow Wilson

EOG Dedicated
Ah, "google it," should have thought of that, lol, thanks. So I can chill with the Solzhenitsyn bit for now.

It was too much for me to copy/paste only having a phone available.

I knew you'd be wise enough to find it.

Thanks for providing the interesting Solzhenitsyn reference.

I decided to "google it" instead of asking you for a link.
 

Sportsrmylife

EOG Master
I went to will hill casino to get a cfb contest application.

They are taking entries right now

They are upgrading the system for the contest and are unsure when it will be up.

Safe to say there will be a big overlay if they don't get this fixed by next week when all these betbash3 folks come to town
They are NOT taking entries
System reboot
 
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Thanks for providing the interesting Solzhenitsyn reference.

I decided to "google it" instead of asking you for a link.

Yep, sort of a modern day corollary to Thoreau's On the Duty of Civil Disobedience, both of which for me are very apt here in the early 21st century.

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Apt as, in a different vein, is also this (at least attributed on the internet to) Mark Twain quote: “It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so.“

Pretty much sums up 97% of social media, including no doubt some of my own contributions at times.

But I think Clemens was being doubly tongue in cheek; it is what they don't know that gets folks, too. Awful lot of people not knowing what they don't know, and being 100% wrong on what they do "know," but blazing away on social media regardless, going around these days.
 

winkyduck

TYVM Morgan William!!!
Update:

Circa entries (w/# for no overlay) as of August 4: Million V: 1102 (6k), Survivor: 2081 (8k).

With Bet Bash coming to town this week look for these numbers to skyrocket. People will be coming into town to sign up/get a proxy.

My guess is by Sunday August 12 the Survivor number may more than double.
 

Sportsrmylife

EOG Master
Aug 8 Tues
Westgate supercontest 275
Supercontest gold 20

Supercontest weekend is Aug 18-19
9 supercontest entries being raffled off

2 supercontest reboot entries as well
 

blueline

EOG Master
As a side note walking to Circa passed a guy passed out on the sidewalk by Calfornia....just wearing a shirt nothing else....when I left Circa he was still passed out but had pants on
 

Sportsrmylife

EOG Master
As a side note walking to Circa passed a guy passed out on the sidewalk by Calfornia....just wearing a shirt nothing else....when I left Circa he was still passed out but had pants on
Does this mean if I lose some clothing to pass out next to the california?
 

blueline

EOG Master
Does this mean if I lose some clothing to pass out next to the california?

He was essentially face down so only his ass was showing...no junk was visible from my angle....same spot same position but with pants on the 2nd time seeing him....there is a lesson in here somewhere...havent figured out what it is yet
 

ComptrBob

EOG Master
BetBash3 is all over. Not a huge surge, but steady increases.

Circa entries (w/# for no overlay) as of Sat PM, August 12: Million V: 1528 (6k), Survivor: 2764 (8k).
 

Sportsrmylife

EOG Master
I'll check westgate numbers today.
Their contest weekend is this coming weekend so it will be interesting to see how much these numbers rise
 

ComptrBob

EOG Master
A couple of observations comparing Circa #entries to the last few years (now 25 days until deadline):

Rate of Increase still positive (earlier):
Last year, Millions passed 1711 entries 18 days from deadline.
Last year, Survivor passed 3112 entries 13 days from deadline.

Decelerating growth last year:
Millions increase in 2022 from 2021 was 12.9% down from 23.0% (2021 from 2020).
Survivor increase in 2022 from 2021 was 33.5% down from 65.9% (2021 from 2020).

2023 Rough projection (conservative): Millions 5300, Survivor 8100.
 
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