How unclutch is ARod?

#1
Bottom 7: Yanks down 3-2, 1 out, bases loaded, ARod strikes out
Bottom 9: Still down 3-2, 2 outs, ARod strikes out

ARod's third strikeout in Game 5. 0-4 with a walk. Can this guy get any worse in the playoffs?
 

rainbow

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#3
Re: How unclutch is ARod?

You could blame this game on numerous players last night. Martin, Swisher, or Gardner. ARod wasn't alone...
 

JHU Dad

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#6
Re: How unclutch is ARod?

Ten more years of both of them...give or take. You always fear that the Yankees will come back, but it didn't even cross my mind with two outs in the ninth. He's at his best when he's up 5 in the ninth against some mop-up man. Can say ditto for his "sure fire HOF" first baseman, Tex.
 

Flamingo kid

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#12
Re: How unclutch is ARod?

Alex isn't a hundred percent he missed a large portion of the season and never really got back into full form. Russel Martin hurt us big time also, he was just overmatched. That happens to catchers late in the year on occasion I was hoping Joe would pinch hit for him because he was just acting like an automatic out when he was up there, weak swings and whatnot. Alex wasn't unclutch in 2009 postseason if you can remember back that far.
 

TomBrady#1

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#14
Re: How unclutch is ARod?

Alex isn't a hundred percent he missed a large portion of the season and never really got back into full form. Russel Martin hurt us big time also, he was just overmatched. That happens to catchers late in the year on occasion I was hoping Joe would pinch hit for him because he was just acting like an automatic out when he was up there, weak swings and whatnot. Alex wasn't unclutch in 2009 postseason if you can remember back that far.
RIght in 2009 he was good but ASIDe from that isn't it safe to say he has failed in the postseason? Even die hard Yankee fans and Arod fans will not dispute this (most will not anyway). I am amazed at how inept he has been in the postseason because he is enormously talented.
 
#16
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It is hard enough trying to hit a baseball but ARod makes it impossible when you go to the plate with both hands gripping your own neck. The last at bat the way he watched those first two strikes you could hear his inner voice screaming "PLEASE BE A BALL"!!
 

Flamingo kid

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#21
Re: How unclutch is ARod?

The postseason careers of most players are so small, it's nit a fair and representative sample of a players true talent. Also, the pitching in the postseason is much, much better than the reg season.
 
#22
Re: How unclutch is ARod?

The postseason careers of most players are so small, it's nit a fair and representative sample of a players true talent. Also, the pitching in the postseason is much, much better than the reg season.
i pretty much agree but arod has only had one decent postseason
 

Flamingo kid

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#23
Re: How unclutch is ARod?

i pretty much agree but arod has only had one decent postseason
Alex has 249 lifetime AB's in the postseason (299 plate appearances) and has 69 hits for a .277 average. Alex's lifetime BA is .302.

I'm not stats guru, but i would have to imagine that every .300 hitter in MLB history had a stretch of 250 ABs where they only hit .277. I'm going on a hunch there.
 
#24
Re: How unclutch is ARod?

Alex has 249 lifetime AB's in the postseason (299 plate appearances) and has 69 hits for a .277 average. Alex's lifetime BA is .302.

I'm not stats guru, but i would have to imagine that every .300 hitter in MLB history had a stretch of 250 ABs where they only hit .277. I'm going on a hunch there.
when looked at that way, it's not bad

however, when each game/big moment is broken down and all he has is a few moments from 09, well, for a superstar, it doesnt look good
 

Flamingo kid

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#25
Re: How unclutch is ARod?

when looked at that way, it's not bad

however, when each game/big moment is broken down and all he has is a few moments from 09, well, for a superstar, it doesnt look good
It only doesnt look good if you don't know where to look. Alex was in ONE world series and he was amazing, almost the MVP of that series. Without him, we don't win.

For a guy who's as 'unclutch' as Alex, he sure picked the best time TO be clutch.
 

scrimmage

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#28
Re: How unclutch is ARod?

Having one good year doesn't justify the $30 million he's being paid every year.
The dollars paid to A-Rod,and other superstars on the Yankees team limit manager Joe Girardi's flexiblity in who plays.He [JG]can't make any moves,to shake up the team,or mix up his lineup,and use his roster to its full potential.
Had Joe G. sat A-Rod,Tex,and Swish for game 5,and played Eric Chavez,Andruw Jones,and Jesus Montero instead,and the team loses he would've been fried by management,the media,and the fans,instead he did the expected,and the mighty Yankees fell by the wayside anyway.
 
#29
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I totally agree. Nothing good can come from overpaying athletes. Maybe the Yankees and Red Sox organizations will learn that someday.
 

scrimmage

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#31
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I totally agree. Nothing good can come from overpaying athletes. Maybe the Yankees and Red Sox organizations will learn that someday.
There's a dysfunctional dynamic between high end teams like Boston and the NYY,and the fans who follow them.Payroll goes up,prices follow,along with expectations,and nothing less than a World Series title can satisfy,being good isn't good enough.
Where's the fun?Rooting for teams with lock down talent isn't satisfying in any league because there's no surprising upside,see the Miami Heat, or the Philadelphia Eagles for example.
That's why a Detroit Lions resurgence is something everyone supports,it's a redemption of sorts.
A team winning it all from nowhere has a certain flair,and is appealing to a wide range of the public because it gives hope to everybody's aspirations.The top dogs don't always get the prize kinda thing.
 

Chuck Sims

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#32
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A-Fraud never could handle top tier pitchers. Some guys can make a career out of tearing up mediocre pitching.
 
#33
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When you make A-Rod money expectations will be very high. I can't fault him for signing the contract. Now he is falling apart physically and the Yanks are stuck with him for years. He's destined to fill the DH spot that is better used to rest other guys like Grandy, Tex, Montero, etc.

Nobody should be getting these 8-10 year contracts that sign the guy until he's past 40.
 

scrimmage

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#35
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well, lets remember the yankees front office is fucking stupid
The Yankee's front office is playing to their customers who support the multi-billion dollar operation which they've become.The NYY are catering to a high end baseball crowd,and that's their market.
When a team competes in the rarefied air,they are handcuffed in many respects,as to what goes on the field.
A more nimble organization can knock off a lumbering giant easily
 
#36
Re: How unclutch is ARod?

I won't say he doesn't deserve his dough as a) you're worth what someone will pay you and b) while talking about his clutch or lack thereof, championships really arent everything as he still 'performed' and 'entertained' 162 nights a year and helped make the team $$$ so thus, is entitled to his share

championships ARE important and all that but i am a lil tired of whenever yanks/sox dont win they say 'the season was a failure' when thats bogus cuz the fans were treated to 7months of athletic entertainment and got to experience the ups and downs of a teams fortunes
 

scrimmage

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#37
Re: How unclutch is ARod?

I won't say he doesn't deserve his dough as a) you're worth what someone will pay you and b) while talking about his clutch or lack thereof, championships really arent everything as he still 'performed' and 'entertained' 162 nights a year and helped make the team $$$ so thus, is entitled to his share

championships ARE important and all that but i am a lil tired of whenever yanks/sox dont win they say 'the season was a failure' when thats bogus cuz the fans were treated to 7months of athletic entertainment and got to experience the ups and downs of a teams fortunes
Do Cubs fans still show up?
 
#38
Re: How unclutch is ARod?

I think it is reasonable to equate salary to success. If an owner paid $200 million/year (Yankees), I would expect much more success than a team with a $40 million payroll (Rays).
 

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#39
Re: How unclutch is ARod?

I think it is reasonable to equate salary to success. If an owner paid $200 million/year (Yankees), I would expect much more success than a team with a $40 million payroll (Rays).
What kind of team are they getting for the money?Who's left to win the World Series this year,and where do they rank in terms of payroll?
Sometimes big salaries box teams into a corner.
 

Flamingo kid

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#40
Re: How unclutch is ARod?

I think it is reasonable to equate salary to success. If an owner paid $200 million/year (Yankees), I would expect much more success than a team with a $40 million payroll (Rays).
Why? Salary is mostly based on past performance, it is money that you're being paid for what you have done. It's just a hope that if you have been good in the past you'll be good in the future. It doesn't always work out that way. Seems to me that players who are financially hungry might play harder than guys who just signed for megabucks. Look at Carl Crawford. Awesome player when he was making peanuts, now that he's signed the monster deal, hes got lesser incentive to be as good as he was.
 
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