Fezzik For November...

This is going to be interesting to see what the time stamp is when Computer Bob got this play. Vegas is painted +4.5 right now. Westgate had +6 on June 3. Was this play released on Monday June 3rd?

I guess only Computer Bob will answer this tomorrow.

Fezzik for 2019 thru June 4
-63.76u

It’s obvious cbob doesn’t even come close to checking for W/A status, let alone market viability of those 3* poRpz
 
You circumvent this issue by having a seperate bucket for Futures as there is no reason to pass up perceived +EV positions. I understand the average bettor doesn't do this, which is one of the reasons why their average :)
This is just a bullshit attempt by Fezzik to still think he has a clue in football. What is +EV on these bets? 3% So if someone is betting $200 per unit on this and has $2,600 in play they are going to allow the sportsbook to hold their money until February for a total of $78?

Then again how much can you or do you need to get down per unit to make this worth your time? Now we spin back to the point of if you are laying down $2,000 per unit on these futures are you a person who was betting $2,000 on all of Fezzik's stuff to the point where you are down 63.76 units now?

Just a classic tout freeroll situation.
 
It’s obvious cbob doesn’t even come close to checking for W/A status, let alone market viability of those 3* poRpz
No his job is simply to record and total up the plays based on the number it is given to him.

It would be an entire whole different story if Cbob got the play and emailed back "Hey Steve, this number is only available at the Peppermill. The widely available number right now is _5 or +4.5. That's what you are getting graded at".

That record would be even worse if that was the case.
 
No his job is simply to record and total up the plays based on the number it is given to him.

It would be an entire whole different story if Cbob got the play and emailed back "Hey Steve, this number is only available at the Peppermill. The widely available number right now is _5 or +4.5. That's what you are getting graded at".

That record would be even worse if that was the case.

I’m pretty sure that when cbob came on board to monitor, that he was supposed to verify the validity of the lines at three different books. Never happened. It’s not that tricky, I once monitored a tout and it took me about three minutes to verify a number, not sure why cbob continues to eschew doing this simple task.
 
6/1/19 Saturday (6/1/19 12:27am) StL -135 [7-4] MLB 2 W 2
6/1/19 Saturday (6/1/19 12:27am) CWS +102 [2-5] MLB 2 L -2
6/1/19 Saturday (6/1/19 12:27am) LAA -109 [6-3] MLB 2 W 2
6/1/19 Saturday (6/1/19 12:27am) SF -135 [8-2] MLB 2 W 2

YTD -69.46u


6/2/19 Sunday (6/1/19 5:52am) Was -125 [4-1] MLB 2 W 2
6/2/19 Sunday (6/1/19 5:52am) Phil/LAD UNDER 9 -115 [0-8] MLB 2 W 2
6/2/19 Sunday (6/1/19 5:52am) Hou/Oak UNDER 8 -115 [6-4] MLB 2 L -2.3
6/2/19 Sunday (6/1/19 5:52am) Det F5 +140 [0-2] MLB 2 L -2

YTD -69.76u

Look at these times for these releases. A Friday night/Saturday morning at fucking 12:27am and Sunday morning at 5:52am. Talk about trying to pick off the best numbers and saying FU to the customers. This is just absurd of releasing plays at this time.
 
I’m pretty sure that when cbob came on board to monitor, that he was supposed to verify the validity of the lines at three different books. Never happened. It’s not that tricky, I once monitored a tout and it took me about three minutes to verify a number, not sure why cbob continues to eschew doing this simple task.
BLAP members are making the effort to bet like a professional – which means more asked from them. As a result, the standard with BLAP is the odds must be available from at least 30% of representative sportsbooks.
 
I have no idea what is a BLAP play and what is a service play.

Maybe ComputerBob has this broken down.

Also CB what is the lifetime +/- of the BLAP since you started tracking it. Since RJ claimed this in his initial statement when you came aboard.

"Bob will receive Fezzik’s plays identically to the BLAP subscribers (exact same fashion, exact same time). Bob will log the plays regularly in this thread (typically daily) and will tally the results. The results will continue to include the LIFETIME RESULTS of the BLAP program (just as they always have)."
"
 
Some respect for his knowledge, but clearly the bLAPz tracking disaster is not cbob’s best work.

But the program has zero subscribers and the total on lifetime subs thus far is probably 4’ u -145 so he probably feels like it isn’t worth a ton of effort.
 

GameBred

I Trade Therefore I Am
This is just a bullshit attempt by Fezzik to still think he has a clue in football.
Agreed.

What is +EV on these bets? 3%
I have no idea what he bet or if they are +EV. I was speaking in general about betting futures.

P.S. Probably -3% :)

So if someone is betting $200 per unit on this and has $2,600 in play they are going to allow the sportsbook to hold their money until February for a total of $78?
Yes. That’s why you have a separate basket, so it doesn’t affect your day–to-day wagering. It’s $78 you didn’t have (ideally) and the invested money was earmarked for Futures. What are you out?

Feel free to disagree but that’s my philosophy.

Then again how much can you or do you need to get down per unit to make this worth your time?
I don’t consider such questions, it’s only work if you’d rather be doing something else. I can think of few better ways of spending my time than on my passion.

Now we spin back to the point of if you are laying down $2,000 per unit on these futures are you a person who was betting $2,000 on all of Fezzik's stuff to the point where you are down 63.76 units now?
I’m sure it’s even worse than that.

Just a classic tout freeroll situation.
He’s playing games w/ units because his fictional clients wouldn’t have a separate basket for Futures. If they are dumb enough to pay him a subscription fee than they aren’t smart enough to compartmentalize their wagering funds. I wrote about this earlier, how you have to deduct those “reserved Future units,” from the units he already lost, which basically leaves you w/ your dick in your hand for wagers moving forward.
 
“Some of the bet types used by Fezzik to help BLAP followers earn a profit are not as easily available in the market place as standard bet types. The key question is: can followers reasonably get down. Steve makes a strong effort to release only bets that followers can get down. Sometimes it’s a close call. ComptrBob will make the final judgement whenever necessary.”


“4/12/19 Friday (4/10/19 10:04pm) Masters Cut UNDER 148.5 -120 [147] GOLF 3 W 3”


The state rests, your honor
 
Good responses Gamebred. I would guess that anyone buying a package from Fezzik has less than $2000 to bet. Futures bets are not in their radar. They are hoping that $2000 becomes $6,000 in a couple of months.
 
Fezzik commented years ago that you need to evolve with the markets......that was about the same time he coined 'the bigger
the game the bigger the under'.......
we're still waiting for Fezzik to evolve.


P.S I would have liked to be a fly in the room watching Fezzik squirm with a empty net and the puck going wide by 2 feet
NHL GM7.
 
Fezzik commented years ago that you need to evolve with the markets......that was about the same time he coined 'the bigger
the game the bigger the under'.......
we're still waiting for Fezzik to evolve.


P.S I would have liked to be a fly in the room watching Fezzik squirm with a empty net and the puck going wide by 2 feet
NHL GM7.
LMAO. I had that exact thought process watching the game last night. I was expecting an empty netter with 8 seconds left in the game for Fezzik to go down in flames with this bet. I hope he is ok. He hasn't been on the radio show the last new days and RJ doesn't seem to know where his #1 horse is.
 
6/2/19 Sunday (6/1/19 5:52am) Was -125 [4-1] MLB 2 W 2
6/2/19 Sunday (6/1/19 5:52am) Phil/LAD UNDER 9 -115 [0-8] MLB 2 W 2
6/2/19 Sunday (6/1/19 5:52am) Hou/Oak UNDER 8 -115 [6-4] MLB 2 L -2.3
6/2/19 Sunday (6/1/19 5:52am) Det F5 +140 [0-2] MLB 2 L -2

Look at these times for these releases. A Friday night/Saturday morning at fucking 12:27am and Sunday morning at 5:52am. Talk about trying to pick off the best numbers and saying FU to the customers. This is just absurd of releasing plays at this time.
Actually these picks were at 5:52pm not am, my mistake, I have corrected the Pregame record. Thanks for catching this.

However your point is still valid, many Fezzik picks are from 6 to 8am PT and some 10-12pm PT. Really unlikely that anyone is paying full price for BLAP picks. In fact, since Feb 2017. an original subscriber has only paid for 2 months ($2,000) for 28 months of picks.

BTW, I post the receival time of my texts so anyone can check if they are available at the time. BLAP has a rather bizarre standard of availability. I check most picks, but certainly not all, I have disallowed some picks for not being available.
 
OK, I think we can officially write this guy off. And here's why. Think of the concept of Old School Gambler.

Look at the Unders in NHL Game 7 + nba game 6. He is recalling some trend that is deep in the recesses of his mind. He's not even bothering to evaluate the number.

Think about it. Who didn't know he was going to be on those plays?
 
One sticks in my mind, a 2ndH from last year, I remember getting the text after I watched the half start.

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I thought one of your duties with this Fezzik tracking was to make sure that when you received a play to verify that at least 3 books had the line that was sent to you. You could then reject a play at that number and correct it with something that was available at three books.

I take it I was wrong in assuming this or did I read something into this that wasn't there.
 
I thought one of your duties with this Fezzik tracking was to make sure that when you received a play to verify that at least 3 books had the line that was sent to you. You could then reject a play at that number and correct it with something that was available at three books.

I take it I was wrong in assuming this or did I read something into this that wasn't there.
LOL. I don't work for Pregame nor receive compensation of any sort, I have no "duties", just whatever I choose to do which is track and grade the picks.

I have never agreed to verify Fezzik's picks per the BLAP criteron, that is Pregame's responsibility.

I do scrutinize picks as I enter them in a spreadsheet to make sure they aren't "way off" of Will Hill, Pinny and CRIS lines. I will check line histories on occasion when I'm suspicious. Anyone familiar with Fezzik knows he will try to get in front of line moves. All picks have the submittal time of the text listed for any customer or third party verification. I also will research any specific complaints about a line.

Obviously, just with my tallies since Aug. 2015 (over 3300 BLAP picks and counting), there will be errors, hopefully very few.
 
My recollection is that Fezz did dispute some of CBob's book-keeping a while back.
There was a period when the Pregame texts either stopped and/or I didn't get them. I used the "system plays log" to enter them with an added ??? in the timestamp. Overall these several dozen plays just about evened out at 0 units. Can't remember any other Fezzik complaints about picks.

Another Fezzik complaint was I produced a negative ROI number (including BLAP fees) for the $200 per unit bettor. He thought I should use a $500 bettor instead .. which would have produced a small +ROI .. LOL
 
There was a period when the Pregame texts either stopped and/or I didn't get them. I used the "system plays log" to enter them with an added ??? in the timestamp. Overall these several dozen plays just about evened out at 0 units. Can't remember any other Fezzik complaints about picks.

Another Fezzik complaint was I produced a negative ROI number (including BLAP fees) for the $200 per unit bettor. He thought I should use a $500 bettor instead .. which would have produced a small +ROI .. LOL
So Andy had a hard time understanding that the BLAP program was for the bettor who could bet a minimum of $200/unit. What I didn't understand was the client had to pay if Fezzik won 5u a month. Well why should they pay $1000/month if Fezzik won 5 units which translate for the bettor to break even?

Why wasn't the program a minimum of +5 units above the cost as a $200/unit minimum?

That RJ guy is sneaky.
 
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