Fezzik: It's hard to say which is more inept

Re: Fezzik: It's hard to say which is more inept

RJ & Fezzik are secretly taped saying they know the picks will never show a profit. RJ then decides to have ComptrBob monitor Fezzik's picks. So hard to reconcile this.
 
Re: Fezzik: It's hard to say which is more inept

RJ & Fezzik are secretly taped saying they know the picks will never show a profit. RJ then decides to have ComptrBob monitor Fezzik's picks. So hard to reconcile this.

Two things

1 I think fezz even had RJ fooled for a long time. He’s a horrible bettor but he was a decent self-promoter for a couple of years. Then groovin, et al started to get heard a bit more vocally. Deadspin article, etc.

2 I think the recording you’re referencing probably came out after cbob got on board. Clearly the pregame crew probably thought fezz could chase steam and derivative his way to gain a few units a month. They didn’t realize he was among the worst cappers alive when chasing and forcing action.
 
Re: Fezzik: It's hard to say which is more inept

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John Kelly

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Re: Fezzik: It's hard to say which is more inept

How does he continue on? This has to stop.

At minimum...Fezzik's name should be boycotted in Forum-ville.
Ban Fezzik's name from Forumville?

Are you kidding me?

He's the gift that keeps on giving.

Fezzik should take his own advice and specialize in the NFL and WNBA.
 
Re: Fezzik: It's hard to say which is more inept

Ban Fezzik's name from Forumville?

Are you kidding me?

He's the gift that keeps on giving.

Fezzik's should take his own advice and specialize in the NFL and WNBA.
I agree. Then the other months he could focus on posting his dinner pics similar to the Meatman's pics. A great, not just good, idea.
 
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In defense of Fezzik....they cut his limits drastically on derivatives starting with Spiro. That probably started the tout thang (Jeff Jones where are you?). Pippy is right he probably can show a profit with derivatives but Vegas ain't the place to do it so we continue faking we can beat full games. I don't see any more tweets from brother Andy bragging re all the money Fezzik is making with daily pick buys. I think even the squarest bettor has put him on freeze then thawed for NFL.
 
Re: Fezzik: It's hard to say which is more inept

Ban Fezzik's name from Forumville?

Are you kidding me?

He's the gift that keeps on giving.

Fezzik's should take his own advice and specialize in the NFL and WNBA.
I'm not choosing my words correctly. His name will drive Forum-ville for sure.

There's a saying in business that any media exposure (even if BAD exposure) = good exposure. In some ways, I feel like he's getting free publicity.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Re: Fezzik: It's hard to say which is more inept

I'm not choosing my words correctly. His name will drive Forum-ville for sure.

There's a saying in business that any media exposure (even if BAD exposure) = good exposure. In some ways, I feel like he's getting free publicity.

Understood.

Name recognition is critical in the tout business.

Larry Ness and Chip Chirimbes are still selling selections and they're in their 80's.

Ahhh, maybe 60's.
 
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Understood.

Name recognition is critical in the tout business.

Larry Ness and Chip Chirimbes are still selling selections and they're in their 80's.

Ahhh, maybe 60's.
Yep. It's about getting your name out there.

One tout I actually LIKED was Mike Lee. You mentioned that you spoke w/ him a few times.

Lee might not have won all the time, but he was TRYING. I used to purchase some of the old "rags" where Mike would publish the "Lee Line".
 
Re: Fezzik: It's hard to say which is more inept

How does he continue on? This has to stop.

At minimum...Fezzik's name should be boycotted in Forum-ville.

I met him years ago at the M.... A chess player.... I like him ...

Cannot boycott his sales or forums... He has a right to sell picks like anyone else and be on forums.
 
Re: Fezzik: It's hard to say which is more inept

I met him years ago at the M.... A chess player.... I like him ...

Cannot boycott his sales or forums... He has a right to sell picks like anyone else and be on forums.
Sure, he has a right to sell. Just saying that 3rd-party isn't obligated to talk about him. Seems like he gets a lot of free publicity on here.
 
Re: Fezzik: It's hard to say which is more inept

lolz

zero legitimacy and continue to lose on stupid angle, but we still firezzzzzzzz!

ThATs hOw SPortS Da BetZZZ
OK, I'll shut up. :)

The entertainment factor too much to pass up. PS, when did the Moneyline angle become part of the portfolio? Hey...a Moneyline favorite has a BETTER CHANCE of covering than Fav minus the points!
 
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Handicappers do this moneyline crap for two reasons. They do it when they are desperate for a win after getting destroyed or guys like It's Vegas Dave plays football -4 to -10 ML games or baseball -200 to -350 ML's so they can brag they go 2-0 on the night if they win both games.
 
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Sure, he has a right to sell. Just saying that 3rd-party isn't obligated to talk about him. Seems like he gets a lot of free publicity on here.

Chucks, don’t mind Mr. “I like to read fezzik’s write ups” Top he’s as clueless as fezz.

But yeah the fezz moneyline plays started to pop up last football season. He will now never lay less than three in any sport, he will just FiRe the moneyline.

Absent this season have been his stellar HRE plays in baseball as he would chase totals steam via that method. Of course they lost all summer long but so did the BiG GaME unDeRZ and he keeps drinking from that well. DoWn in dA BUNKeR
 
Re: Fezzik: It's hard to say which is more inept

Scooper, great post. Per usual.

There are a few handicapping trends to observe over time. If u see an old-school bettor age 50+, there are a few things that he sees as value. He most likely hasn't updated his game in 20 years.

First thing he'll say is that Dogs are value. The old databases confirm this. NFL home-dogs were ~ 55% ATS for years...so that makes it good enuf to go to the window, right?

Second item would be betting Totals to go Under. Perception is that public-bettors love to see points. So, let's be SHARP and go under.

In big games, take the Under motif one step further. Defense wins championships, right?

Why bother doing any legwork? Old-school bettor MAY have even been a net-winner at one point.

Take a bright young mind like Irish Tim. He showed that RECENT databases split the Fav/Dog results neatly into 50/50. Ergo, the Dog bias has been sucked out.

Doesn't stop the Old-School dinosaur from going to the window.
 
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Great post as well Chucky.

The “public likes OVER so let’s bet UNDER” mentality survives to this day amongst many otherwise very sharp sports betting minds.

Many respected MLB bettors paid dearly for this in the spring of last year.

I on the other hand am guilty of making the case in my mind for OVER too often.
 
Re: Fezzik: It's hard to say which is more inept

Thx, ejd. Was just some food for thought. Here's my angle on historical trends:

* The more it's KNOWN...the more it's factored into the line.

So, things like Home Dogs (and specifically NFL Home Dogs) look good, if u stretch the database back 40 years. If you split the database into 20/20 years, the angle looks much closer to a 50/50 split. You have to win on correct pricing, not generic angles.
 
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MLB YTD 18-18, -11.14

NBA Playoffs
2017: 16-32, -42.1 units
2018: 12-15, -9.5 units

NHL playoffs YTD 1-5, -7.85 playoffs We FiRE g7 unDeRz is thaT puCk pumpEd or StuFFed
 
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