Message for John Kelly

kane

EOG master
I know Dell, he holds grudges, he remembers the kids who fucked with him in kindergarten, he'll accept a week, but if John keeps the month, there's a chance Dell never returns, which will quickly bring the forum down. And if Dell leaves for good, I'll have to re-evaluate my standing here as well

#FreeDell
 

kane

EOG master
Winky is on record stating Dell's posts didn't bother him. If the posts don't fit, you must acquit.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Winky is on record stating Dell's posts didn't bother him. If the posts don't fit, you must acquit.

No no no.

Winky's okay when Dell criticizes him.

But when Dell attacked Winky's late mother, Winky objected and threatened to stop competing in EOG's Grand Challenge.

I have text messages to prove it.

KANE, you wanted me to reconsider my position on Dell's 30-day ban.

With this new information about Winky's request coming to light, I now want you to reconsider your position.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
I've had DD on ignore since his sabotage of the GC, so thankfully I missed the nasty post. Absolute genius by JK to make it a month and insure Winky and BetDSI a clean GC.

One problem with the ignore feature is it truly doesn't ignore the poster. DD 's inane crap pushes threads up and lists the last post as "ignored member". This obscures a previous post in a thread I might want to read. I look forward to a great May.

Thanks for your support, CB.
 

jimmythegreek

The opening odds start here
JK have you at any point yet cut to the white bronco bejng chased interrupting Golden Srate/Houston game 7?
 

MrTop

EOG Master
the text messages are like OJ's glove. Largest evidence in this case.

the problem is no due process
 

jimmythegreek

The opening odds start here
And whichever charity(ies) he chooses.

I'll simply assume thar eog members have bridges for sale if you believe that.
 

kane

EOG master
With this new information about Winky's request coming to light, I now want you to reconsider your position.
No reason for me to reconsider my position. What you should have done is suspend him for a week with a warning that any further attacks on his mother would then result in a month's suspension. Dell has been a long time member and a valuable contributor here, that should have earned him some level of respect, had you done the right thing and ban him for a week with a warning, no one, including him, would have had a problem with it, then if he's not on his best behaviour, it's his own fault for what happens. You overreacted by immediately suspending him for the entire month, I understand the reasoning, but you went overboard, it should have been a week, then put him on double secret probation. It's not to late to right the wrong John, you can unban him at the end of the week and give him a second chance, everyone deserves a second chance

#FreeDell
 

kane

EOG master
Doesn't like DD, false.
If you say so, your actions say otherwise. And another thing, did you even consider the consequences of your actions? Before your month long suspension did you stop and think about the long term ramifications? If Dell decides to not come back, what do you think it does to this forum? Do you think it strengthens or weakens this place? Your personal feeling about him aside, we both know the answer as to whether this place is better or worse without him. If he doesn't come back, you've weakened EOG in ways you haven't realized, all because one member got his feelings hurt, even though that member has Dell on ignore, he only saw his posts the one time when he had to log back in, for as long as Winky is here he'll never see any of Dell's posts again. It's not to late to do the right thing John.

#FreeDell
 

kane

EOG master
Computer Bob a good voice of reason. DD has interrupted the monthly contests with endless posts. Siding with JK on this.
Bob called Dell's post "nasty", he also said he has him on ignore and didn't see the post in question, but somehow he knows it was "nasty", and it was a brilliant move by John to suspend him for a month. He's commenting on a post he didn't read, I would hardly call that a voice of reason. And Bob is biased against Dell, Dell is always pointing out the times he thinks Bob is manipulating his live bets in the BB thread, there have been many times Dell said he caught Bob cheating with his live bets, so of course he's going to side with John, siding with John even though he never saw the posts he called "nasty", LOL

#FreeDell
 

kane

EOG master
If John doesn't do the right thing, and Dell leaves because of it, by the time John realizes the damage he's done, it will be too late, and this place will suffer for it

#FreeDell
 

kane

EOG master
the text messages are like OJ's glove. Largest evidence in this case.

the problem is no due process
Topper, the large evidence in this case are the posts Dell made in Winky's thread. None of us can see them however since John deleted the posts in question. so to summarize:

1) John unfairly suspends Dell for a month, instead of one week with a warning, due to some derogatory posts Dell made in Winky's thread
2) John then deletes the posts in question so no one here can see them
3) John then defends his position claiming Winky sent him some text messages, even though in this very thread Winky said he didn't have a problem with what Dell posted

This is a miscarriage of justice. If the posts don't fit, you must acquit

#FreeDell
 

MrTop

EOG Master
Topper, the large evidence in this case are the posts Dell made in Winky's thread. None of us can see them however since John deleted the posts in question. so to summarize:

1) John unfairly suspends Dell for a month, instead of one week with a warning, due to some derogatory posts Dell made in Winky's thread
2) John then deletes the posts in question so no one here can see them
3) John then defends his position claiming Winky sent him some text messages, even though in this very thread Winky said he didn't have a problem with what Dell posted

This is a miscarriage of justice. If the posts don't fit, you must acquit

#FreeDell


the people finally see justice.
 

Ray Luca

EOG Master
Hey JK, move this garbage to the Asylum please. You made a decision.
You defended your decision
Now let this attention whore continue in the Asylum 😀
 

ComptrBob

EOG Master
Bob called Dell's post "nasty", he also said he has him on ignore and didn't see the post in question, but somehow he knows it was "nasty", and it was a brilliant move by John to suspend him for a month. He's commenting on a post he didn't read, I would hardly call that a voice of reason. And Bob is biased against Dell, Dell is always pointing out the times he thinks Bob is manipulating his live bets in the BB thread, there have been many times Dell said he caught Bob cheating with his live bets, so of course he's going to side with John, siding with John even though he never saw the posts he called "nasty", LOL

#FreeDell

What garbage! I trust JK's statement about DD's comments about Winky's mom to characterize it as "nasty". Slanderous crap from DD should be deleted.

DD is a pathetic cretin who has tried to sabotage EOG and the Grand Challenge in any way he could.

BTW, I haven't cheated with live bets, virtually all I have first bet at the line and book listed. I then edit the pick with betting# and finally post it. Obviously with basketball, the game continues and many times a minute later the bet looks either good or bad. Lines can change within seconds & with every basket, duh. Some picks are stinkers and sometimes the comments from other posters are that I could get a much better line if I had waited 2, 3, 4, or 5 minutes.
 

Valuist

EOG Master
The tote board has just gone “official”. Kane’s foul claim against JK has been disallowed. DD, the stewards will meet with you to discuss your suspension and upcoming fine.
 

jimmythegreek

The opening odds start here
It is extremely difficult and pinpoint to get those live bets in, especially in basketball, where stoppages of live play are a minute or a half less during those time outs, so the totality of those bets are no doubt accurate.
 

kane

EOG master
It is extremely difficult and pinpoint to get those live bets in, especially in basketball, where stoppages of live play are a minute or a half less during those time outs, so the totality of those bets are no doubt accurate.
It's very easy to manipulate live bets in football, especially when betting the over
 

kane

EOG master
I trust JK's statement about DD's comments about Winky's mom to characterize it as "nasty"
Again, you comment on something you didn't see solely because you trust John's statement, okay. If I were ever on trial I hope you're not on my jury

#FreeDell
 

kane

EOG master
I fully expect John to move this thread, deep down he knows I'm right and can't debate me on the facts of the case. Rather than let me keep proving how wrong he is, he'll bury this thread by moving it in hopes that will silence me. I can say right now he's wrong, no matter what he does with this thread I won't be silenced, let's see if he has the guts to leave this thread where it is, or if he'll be a coward and move it. Even though we disagree on his handling of Dell, we can still have discourse and discuss it, but if he moves the thread, that tells me and everyone he knows he's wrong

#FreeDell
 

MrTop

EOG Master
Topper, the large evidence in this case are the posts Dell made in Winky's thread. None of us can see them however since John deleted the posts in question. so to summarize:

1) John unfairly suspends Dell for a month, instead of one week with a warning, due to some derogatory posts Dell made in Winky's thread
2) John then deletes the posts in question so no one here can see them
3) John then defends his position claiming Winky sent him some text messages, even though in this very thread Winky said he didn't have a problem with what Dell posted

This is a miscarriage of justice. If the posts don't fit, you must acquit

#FreeDell


ya know all this time i thought dell worked for EOG
 

kane

EOG master
John has the balls to keep this thread right where it is +700

John will act like a fraud and coward and move it -1000

Prove me wrong John, keep the thread where it is and earn my respect
 

jimmythegreek

The opening odds start here
What about it doesn't budge until after a decision is made? Otherwise, ground is stood +700.
It might be semi-polticial, but Dell leads in total posts and individual instigations, plus it's sports contest related, so no need for John to move it.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
I fully expect John to move this thread, deep down he knows I'm right and can't debate me on the facts of the case. Rather than let me keep proving how wrong he is, he'll bury this thread by moving it in hopes that will silence me. I can say right now he's wrong, no matter what he does with this thread I won't be silenced, let's see if he has the guts to leave this thread where it is, or if he'll be a coward and move it. Even though we disagree on his handling of Dell, we can still have discourse and discuss it, but if he moves the thread, that tells me and everyone he knows he's wrong

#FreeDell
I recall the old days not that long ago when I'd pop into EOG and maybe read a thread or two, I'd leave and come back 12 hrs later and there might be 3-4-5 posts total across all threads.

Those days are back, like him or hate him he drove posts, which is what any forum needs, some forums have paid posters/mods who try to do that, dell did it for free.

JK needs to apologize to dell, ban Winky for a month instead of dell for being a whiny little pussy who runs to the mods/JK, and allow dell to do the contest that he was cheated out of last time.
 

kane

EOG master
There have been many times he's pissed me off with something he posted, once I even deleted an entire 50 page thread over something he posted. He'll also be the first to say sometimes he's an asshole, over the top, I mean there's a reason why he's constantly getting his Twitter account suspended. But he's the straw that stirs the fucking drink, his thread gets more views than any other and it's not even close, during dead times, like what's coming when the NBA playoffs end, he almost single handedly keeps this place alive. John has committed a grave error in judgement by doing what he did, and as I said before, I'll also have to decide if this is where I want to stay, not saying I'm out of here, but there's a very real chance John's decision didn't just cost him the best poster here, but possibly another one as well. Comrade Merlin, EOG's loss might end up being your gain.

#FreeDell
 

kane

EOG master
Railbird can post "Nate Silver is a leftist Jew faggot", not only is that acceptable, but encouraged. "Free speech, but no hate speech", right John? Onwards and upwards!

#FreeDell
 
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