Message for John Kelly

Jammer

EOG Dedicated
I recall the old days not that long ago when I'd pop into EOG and maybe read a thread or two, I'd leave and come back 12 hrs later and there might be 3-4-5 posts total across all threads.

Those days are back, like him or hate him he drove posts, which is what any forum needs, some forums have paid posters/mods who try to do that, dell did it for free.

JK needs to apologize to dell, ban Winky for a month instead of dell for being a whiny little pussy who runs to the mods/JK, and allow dell to do the contest that he was cheated out of last time.
How was he cheated out of the contest. I thought he used a Tennis selection which was not allowed. Seems like he did that to himself. I mean, he knew the rules.
 

Ray Luca

EOG Master
Kane, why don't you take some of your money that you won on all your best bets and start your own forum. You can pay Dell to post there too.
 

jimmythegreek

The opening odds start here
How was he cheated out of the contest. I thought he used a Tennis selection which was not allowed. Seems like he did that to himself. I mean, he knew the rules.
He proceeded with more tennis and soccer which all in all totalled about 3 or 4 illegal plays even after the first offense. I lobbied for JK salvaging half and others had conflicting opinions for full and no award, but the decision had already been made.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
How was he cheated out of the contest. I thought he used a Tennis selection which was not allowed. Seems like he did that to himself. I mean, he knew the rules.
So he picked some tennis matches, big deal, some people here are so uptight, no fun at all. if he wants to cheat let him cheat, it's not my money, yours or JK's.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
Railbird can post "Nate Silver is a leftist Jew faggot", not only is that acceptable, but encouraged. "Free speech, but no hate speech", right John? Onwards and upwards!

#FreeDell
Lets try to not make everything political, someone starts it and then the opposite responses happen, then we're all at each others throats.

I blame the jews for everything being so political.









By the way, I'm kidding...it's not just the jews it's the blacks too.
 

Jammer

EOG Dedicated
So he picked some tennis matches, big deal, some people here are so uptight, no fun at all. if he wants to cheat let him cheat, it's not my money, yours or JK's.
Let him cheat- Ok, but that’s not our decision, we’re not putting up the money. So go whine and bitch to BetDSI, and say your boy cheated. give him another chance. I could care less either way.
 

Patrick McIrish

OCCams raZOR
Wait what, the guy who beats the shit out of his own sister is complaining about how others talk about his family?

We could only wish for that girl's sake it was only posted words instead of this creep's fists that were pounded into her face.

Also I believe Winky promised to viciously attack and anally rape another poster's sister a few times.....

Did he get 30 days for that?

And I lost count how many times Winky has gone with "POTUS is a pedophile and fucks his own daughter up the ass" etc.......

Yeah man this guy is big on protecting family! For sure a new precedent is in order! Family is now out of bounds!



:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 

Patrick McIrish

OCCams raZOR
I wouldn't mention it if he himself hadn't posted about beating his sister......

Of all people to get special treatment for how his family is being "treated".

I thought it was a joke at first. I bet his sister wished it was just text on the internet rather than a fist sandwich.

Winky has gotten a poster suspended 30 days for not treating his family with proper respect?

You can't make this stuff up if you tried.

I'm not going to argue about it but anyone other than Dell and this is a play on.
 

boston massacre

EOG Master
There have been many times he's pissed me off with something he posted, once I even deleted an entire 50 page thread over something he posted. He'll also be the first to say sometimes he's an asshole, over the top, I mean there's a reason why he's constantly getting his Twitter account suspended. But he's the straw that stirs the fucking drink, his thread gets more views than any other and it's not even close, during dead times, like what's coming when the NBA playoffs end, he almost single handedly keeps this place alive. John has committed a grave error in judgement by doing what he did, and as I said before, I'll also have to decide if this is where I want to stay, not saying I'm out of here, but there's a very real chance John's decision didn't just cost him the best poster here, but possibly another one as well. Comrade Merlin, EOG's loss might end up being your gain.

#FreeDell

Do you get that Hard if you're ever with

a Broad , also ?
 

Blackcloud

EOG Dedicated
Wait what, the guy who beats the shit out of his own sister is complaining about how others talk about his family?

We could only wish for that girl's sake it was only posted words instead of this creep's fists that were pounded into her face.

Also I believe Winky promised to viciously attack and anally rape another poster's sister a few times.....

Did he get 30 days for that?

And I lost count how many times Winky has gone with "POTUS is a pedophile and fucks his own daughter up the ass" etc.......

Yeah man this guy is big on protecting family! For sure a new precedent is in order! Family is now out of bounds!



:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Have you seen winky? -150 his sister beat his ass regularly and he made up the story about being the winner.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
There have been many times he's pissed me off with something he posted, once I even deleted an entire 50 page thread over something he posted. He'll also be the first to say sometimes he's an asshole, over the top, I mean there's a reason why he's constantly getting his Twitter account suspended. But he's the straw that stirs the fucking drink, his thread gets more views than any other and it's not even close, during dead times, like what's coming when the NBA playoffs end, he almost single handedly keeps this place alive. John has committed a grave error in judgement by doing what he did, and as I said before, I'll also have to decide if this is where I want to stay, not saying I'm out of here, but there's a very real chance John's decision didn't just cost him the best poster here, but possibly another one as well. Comrade Merlin, EOG's loss might end up being your gain.

#FreeDell
We take all comers...we kinda have to, lol.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Hey JK, move this garbage to the Asylum please. You made a decision.
You defended your decision
Now let this attention whore continue in the Asylum 😀

John has the balls to keep this thread right where it is +700

John will act like a fraud and coward and move it -1000

Prove me wrong John, keep the thread where it is and earn my respect

I always wince when two of EOG's smart guys attack one another.

I appreciate both KANE and LUCA.

LUCA wants this thread to go to the Asylum immediately.

KANE is daring me to keep this thread right where it is.

I'll split the difference: Thread remains in its spot until Dell Dude's 30-day ban is over.

Thanks to CB, Valuist, DOG, Jimmy and others for their support.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Topper, the large evidence in this case are the posts Dell made in Winky's thread. None of us can see them however since John deleted the posts in question. so to summarize:

1) John unfairly suspends Dell for a month, instead of one week with a warning, due to some derogatory posts Dell made in Winky's thread
2) John then deletes the posts in question so no one here can see them
3) John then defends his position claiming Winky sent him some text messages, even though in this very thread Winky said he didn't have a problem with what Dell posted

This is a miscarriage of justice. If the posts don't fit, you must acquit

#FreeDell

So you have no problem with the ban, but rather a problem with the length of the ban.

You want seven days, not 30.

Minor disagreement.

The thought process behind the 30-day ban was WINKY's term in the Grand Challenge thread.

Not long ago, KANE, you requested me to recruit WINKY back to EOG.

WINK left because of DUDE'S boorish behavior.
 

Ray Luca

EOG Master
The lib brokester gonna pretend he's leaving. But his precious best bet bold type name, where he watches the screen and comes here first upon movement lol, but he's never leaving here.
 

kane

EOG master
So you have no problem with the ban, but rather a problem with the length of the ban.

You want seven days, not 30.

Minor disagreement.

The thought process behind the 30-day ban was WINKY's term in the Grand Challenge thread.

Not long ago, KANE, you requested me to recruit WINKY back to EOG.

WINK left because of DUDE'S boorish behavior.
Exactly, I understand the reasoning behind the ban, I get it. What I have a problem with is the length. In hindsight, don't you think a one week ban along with a warning that if he messes with Winky again he'll get a full month would have been the way to go? Why didn't you just give him a week and a warning? I'd really appreciate an answer to this question. John, you've been here for 16 years, in all that time have you ever banned someone for 4 weeks? I know you've given out one week bans, and on occasion perma bans, but have you ever handed someone a 4 week ban? I'd appreciate an answer to this question as well. I've told you privately in the past that I respect you and have commended you on how you run this place, but I honestly think you messed up this time, I don't think you thought about the long term ramifications, you expect Dell to take his medicine and come back like nothing happened, but there's a very real chance he doesn't come back, in fact I'd make no return the favorite. Let's say you had to do it over again, and you knew for a fact that giving Dell a 4 week ban meant him leaving for good, would you still have done it, or would you have gone with my suggestion of one week and a warning? For the sake of EOG's future I implore you to re-consider and change the ban to one week with a warning, you don't spend a lot of time here, so maybe you don't realize just how important Dell is to this place, his thread is by far the most popular and probably the most viewed ever in terms of views per day. Also, yes I asked you to try and get Winky back, I like him, and my defense of Dell has nothing to do with him. However, I don't understand how Winky could have left because of Dell's "boorish behavior" since he has him on ignore, it doesn't make any sense, having him on ignore means he doesn't see any of Dell's posts anyway, so how could he have been bothered by them? It's my understanding, and Winky can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Winky left when Trump won the election, he didn't want to deal with the maga morons, so he left, I'm not positive on this and if I'm wrong Winky can correct me, but either way how could someone leave here due to another members posts when that person has him on ignore, doesn't make sense. It's not to late to do the right thing John.

#FreeDell
 

kane

EOG master
I normally don't see DD's posts but since I did not log in - I did.

This was posted by Winky the other day, he doesn't see Dell's posts because he has him on ignore. The only reason he saw them this time was he was logged out and had to log back in, had he been logged in during his absence he never would have seen anything Dell posted and none of this would have happened. So Winky himself says he doesn't see Dell's posts, which means the reason he left couldn't have been due to Dell's posts. If the posts don't fit, you must acquit.

#FreeDell
 

kane

EOG master
WINK left because of DUDE'S boorish behavior.
Okay John, I was right about the reason Winky left and it had nothing to do with Dell. The presidential election was held on Nov 5th, the next day Nov 6th Winky sent me a PM saying he was leaving here, out of respect for him I'll keep what he posted private, but trust me it wasn't a coincidence that Winky left the day after Trump was elected. If Winky says it's okay, I'll copy and paste the message he sent me, but the reason he left was Trump winning the election, and had NOTHING to do with Dell. In light of this news now being brought to your attention, I implore you to reconsider Dell's month long ban and change it to one week with a warning.

#FreeDell
 

Ray Luca

EOG Master
Good luck to everyone. I'll be traveling the next several months. Reading this fraud Kane's posts is very annoying. He's hands down the dumbest person on Earth. Can't even stop by anymore.
Terrible
 

Jammer

EOG Dedicated
For the sake of EOG's future I implore you to re-consider and change the ban to one week.

Good lord no one gives a shit if you, me, Dell or anyone leaves the site. Who fucking cares. It’s a sports forum for christs sake.
 

Almost Allright

GO Bucks!!!
Kane, never had an issue with you even though we sit opposite sides on some things. And I'm not trying to be confrontational here. I can recall and frankly miss the days where Dell’s alleged offense would have been met with laughter and more smack talk. But it feels as if you’re auditioning for something. An aroma of an ulterior motive permeates.
 
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