Message for John Kelly

kane

EOG master
An aroma of an ulterior motive permeates.
What kind of ulterior motive are you talking about? I can promise you my only intent in starting this thread and my defense of Dell is I think a 4 week ban is unfair and unwarranted. Unless John says otherwise I believe this is the first 4 week ban he's handed out. What he should have done is give Dell a week ban along with a warning if he makes any more posts in Winky's GC thread the ban will be increased to the whole month, what's wrong with that? Either Dell leaves Winky alone and we all move on, or he keeps bothering Winky which would result in a deserved month long ban, that's how John should have handled it. My defense of Dell and the point of this thread is because I think John handled it the wrong way, and me and Dell are friends, I'm standing by my friend who I think was treated unfairly. I'm sure you have plenty of friends, if you thought one of them was being treated unfairly I would hope you would stand by them and speak up for them. Also, if Dell doesn't come back it will weaken this place, that's just a fact regardless of how you or anyone else feels about him, his thread is the most viewed, EOG is a better forum if here's here, his absence drags this place down. I can assure you I have no ulterior motive, and TBH, I don't even know what you mean by that
 

boston massacre

EOG Master
Exactly, I understand the reasoning behind the ban, I get it. What I have a problem with is the length. In hindsight, don't you think a one week ban along with a warning that if he messes with Winky again he'll get a full month would have been the way to go? Why didn't you just give him a week and a warning? I'd really appreciate an answer to this question. John, you've been here for 16 years, in all that time have you ever banned someone for 4 weeks? I know you've given out one week bans, and on occasion perma bans, but have you ever handed someone a 4 week ban? I'd appreciate an answer to this question as well. I've told you privately in the past that I respect you and have commended you on how you run this place, but I honestly think you messed up this time, I don't think you thought about the long term ramifications, you expect Dell to take his medicine and come back like nothing happened, but there's a very real chance he doesn't come back, in fact I'd make no return the favorite. Let's say you had to do it over again, and you knew for a fact that giving Dell a 4 week ban meant him leaving for good, would you still have done it, or would you have gone with my suggestion of one week and a warning? For the sake of EOG's future I implore you to re-consider and change the ban to one week with a warning, you don't spend a lot of time here, so maybe you don't realize just how important Dell is to this place, his thread is by far the most popular and probably the most viewed ever in terms of views per day. Also, yes I asked you to try and get Winky back, I like him, and my defense of Dell has nothing to do with him. However, I don't understand how Winky could have left because of Dell's "boorish behavior" since he has him on ignore, it doesn't make any sense, having him on ignore means he doesn't see any of Dell's posts anyway, so how could he have been bothered by them? It's my understanding, and Winky can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Winky left when Trump won the election, he didn't want to deal with the maga morons, so he left, I'm not positive on this and if I'm wrong Winky can correct me, but either way how could someone leave here due to another members posts when that person has him on ignore, doesn't make sense. It's not to late to do the right thing John.

#FreeDell

I guess this guy is really in Love with DD.
 

boston massacre

EOG Master
For the sake of EOG's future I implore you to re-consider and change the ban to one week.

Good lord no one gives a shit if you, me, Dell or anyone leaves the site. Who fucking cares. It’s a sports forum for christs sake.

Correct.

Sounds like things could be different if you're in Love with the guy.

Kane's written enough about DD in this thread , to author a book about him.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
I guess this guy is really in Love with DD.
I'm in kanes camp on this, and I dont love dell, I often find him extremely irritating - talking in gibberish, obsessed with his cray bets that'll never hit., etc, however he does post and is genuine about it, which prompts reactions, which in turn keeps things hopping.

Winky on the other hand is a whiny little bitch and he's always been a whiny little bitch, soft, weak, fragile, easily rattled, constantly pouts, puts people on ignore because he's emotionally weak, sends pm's to JK making threats and begging for JK to handle his issues..

Dell makes a forum better and Winky makes them all worse.
 

Almost Allright

GO Bucks!!!
Don’t disagree with you in any way regarding Dell. But Overkill bro. Looks like you’re auditioning for a new job as a literary giant in Modville. But I’d be remiss not to mention I used to go on a rant or two moons ago. Best of luck.
 

kane

EOG master
But Overkill bro.
Maybe, but Dell can't respond here, so I'm speaking for him, we know how much he loves to power post, so I'm filling in for him in the manner in which I think he would be defending himself

Looks like you’re auditioning for a new job as a literary giant in Modville
Oh God no, wouldn't want that responsibility. I wouldn't mind being a mod for a day though, that sounds like fun, but permanently, no thanks
 

kane

EOG master
I'm in kanes camp on this, and I dont love dell, I often find him extremely irritating - talking in gibberish, obsessed with his cray bets that'll never hit., etc, however he does post and is genuine about it, which prompts reactions, which in turn keeps things hopping.
Comrade Merlin gets it, love him or hate him, he draws eyeballs. Not only is he the straw that stirs the drink, he is the fucking drink

 

mr merlin

EOG Master
Another thing, he's pissed me off more times than I can count, I know him better than anyone and there are lots of times even I don't understand him. The guy is a non conformist, he does things his own way, dances to the beat of his own drummer, but he's an original, he's one of one, he don't give a fuck. Would I want to be a part of a forum full of Dells, fuck no, but every forum needs one of him, a guy who isn't afraid to shake things up and keep a forum alive. And yeah, sometimes he paints outside the lines, but when dealing with him you just have to let him roam free, and let him be who he is. When he gets out of line, you slap him on the wrist with a week off, you don't lose him by giving him 4 weeks
As far as I know he did nothing wrong, saying winky's mom with blue hair looks like a crazy lib is not an insult, nor is it boorish behavior, boorish behavior is disappearing for 5 months because trump won an election and then coming back and trying to get the forums heart and soul banned.
 

boston massacre

EOG Master
I'm in kanes camp on this, and I dont love dell, I often find him extremely irritating - talking in gibberish, obsessed with his cray bets that'll never hit., etc, however he does post and is genuine about it, which prompts reactions, which in turn keeps things hopping.

Winky on the other hand is a whiny little bitch and he's always been a whiny little bitch, soft, weak, fragile, easily rattled, constantly pouts, puts people on ignore because he's emotionally weak, sends pm's to JK making threats and begging for JK to handle his issues..

Dell makes a forum better and Winky makes them all worse.

He certainly whines like a Bitch when it comes to Trump.

I enjoyed giving him multiple MAGA beatdowns.

I was put on Ignore after all those beatdowns.

As far as Kane goes.......if he didn't complain about DD's 30 Day suspension , Who would have ?

I'll give you the answer : NO ONE !
 

Patrick McIrish

OCCams raZOR
Kane, I applaud your efforts but I think what you're missing is the assumption JK wants to keep Dell here as a poster.

This whole collusive effort was designed to do just the opposite.
 

lap18

EOG Dedicated
Don’t disagree with you in any way regarding Dell. But Overkill bro. Looks like you’re auditioning for a new job as a literary giant in Modville. But I’d be remiss not to mention I used to go on a rant or two moons ago. Best of luck.
JimmytheGreek will not take this lightly. JTG has been warming up in the bullpen for 2 years...
 

jimmythegreek

The opening odds start here
JimmytheGreek will not take this lightly. JTG has been warming up in the bullpen for 2 years...
Lap, this is indirectly related despite the old speculation. The chance waa had longer ago, the trigger waa never pullled. JK moves on.
 
Serious question. Why does Dell get a month ban for "boorish behaviour", but Railbird is allowed to post as much racist and anti-Semitic bullshit as he wants? And all he gets is the occasional "Birdie, please". You kick him out for making posts about a member who has him on ignore and never even sees his posts anyway. You don't understand it, but if Dell doesn't come back, you've just weakened this place in ways you haven't even realized yet. His thread has the most views per day than any other thread, he's the straw that stirs EOG's drink, and you get rid him due to "boorish behaviour". A week I can see, but a month? I hope you rethink things and change his ban to only a week, if not, we'll look back one day and realize this was the day the forum starting going downhill.
Please stop crying. It's past the point of embarrassment.
 
You didn't have to ban him for the month, you could have given him a one week ban, he would have learned his lesson and stayed out of Winky's thread, and if he didn't, then you could have given him the month. He's been a member here for 20 years, he deserves a second chance, you could still do the right thing and change the ban to one week, if not there's a chance he won't come back, which will ruin this place. I know you don't like him, but you need to be fair, if this was one of EOG's "good guys" you would have probably just given a warning, but you let your personal feelings take control and overreacted, It's never too late to do the right thing John, I'm asking you to change the ban to a week, then put him on probation for the rest of the month, if he acts up, then he deserves what he gets, but as a long time member I think he desreves a second chance, at least consider it
Stop
 

MrTop

EOG Master
I'm in kanes camp on this, and I dont love dell, I often find him extremely irritating - talking in gibberish, obsessed with his cray bets that'll never hit., etc, however he does post and is genuine about it, which prompts reactions, which in turn keeps things hopping.

Winky on the other hand is a whiny little bitch and he's always been a whiny little bitch, soft, weak, fragile, easily rattled, constantly pouts, puts people on ignore because he's emotionally weak, sends pm's to JK making threats and begging for JK to handle his issues..

Dell makes a forum better and Winky makes them all worse.



comrade representing DD and the motherland.... getting 2 sources of income

i love it
 

kane

EOG master
It's past the point of embarrassment.
hey liar, you know what's past the point of embarrassment? Thinking Patrick Mahomes and Alex Smith are the same QB, imagine how fucking dumb you have to be to think that, now crawl back to peep's lying bitch
 

WVU

EOG Master
I am posting in support of Dell Dude. He has attacked me (and family) relentlessly in the past, but I have always supported his right to do so. He even uses my picture in his avatar as a way to bash me, but I just laugh it off. He is a sharp poster. And he is entertaining. He is the type of poster you want posting.

Free Dell Dude
Free Cwissy
 

kane

EOG master
I am posting in support of Dell Dude. He has attacked me (and family) relentlessly in the past, but I have always supported his right to do so. He even uses my picture in his avatar as a way to bash me, but I just laugh it off. He is a sharp poster. And he is entertaining. He is the type of poster you want posting.

Free Dell Dude
Free Cwissy
Thanks for the support WVU, love the avatar. You're obviously someone who gets it, unfortunately John is someone who doesn't get it. Dell won't post here anymore, John screwed the pooch and it cost him the MVP of EOG, all he did was weaken this place, either he's too dumb to realize it or he doesn't care, either way this place won't be the same without him.

#FreeDell
 

boston massacre

EOG Master
Thanks for the support WVU, love the avatar. You're obviously someone who gets it, unfortunately John is someone who doesn't get it. Dell won't post here anymore, John screwed the pooch and it cost him the MVP of EOG, all he did was weaken this place, either he's too dumb to realize it or he doesn't care, either way this place won't be the same without him.

#FreeDell

Won't be the same for you.

The Weak don't survive.
 

mr merlin

EOG Master
I am posting in support of Dell Dude. He has attacked me (and family) relentlessly in the past, but I have always supported his right to do so. He even uses my picture in his avatar as a way to bash me, but I just laugh it off. He is a sharp poster. And he is entertaining. He is the type of poster you want posting.

Free Dell Dude
Free Cwissy
What avatar? isn't his a cat sleeping on a pillow?
 
Mr Kelly it’s time to take the trash out. This thread and OP need to go.
If anyone should go, it's kane. Starts these crap posts about others. Then in good threads he brings them to a screeching hault with racist talk and bashing of railbird.
 

John Kelly

Born Gambler
Staff member
Lift the ban when this months CG contestant flames out.

Clever idea, CHEAP.

DUDE'S ban will be lifted when WINKY is eliminated from the Grand Challenge.

Trump needs CHEAPSEATS in his Cabinet.

I'll nominate CHEAP for the new Cabinet position: Secretary of Negotiation and Deal-Making.

#CwissyApproves
 

jimmythegreek

The opening odds start here
JK showing the confidence card in winky. Rephrase the term of when the contest is complete. Never a harm tryjng to save DSI money.
 
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