EOG has gone totally downhiill, my post on RAS .............

bernardoincr

EOG Dedicated
Re: EOG has gone totally downhiill, my post on RAS .............

i think either he or someone in his office bets his plays. there was a situation which i was able to see clearly as i was "in the house" that 5 minutes before the release all his plays moved. so, the out took
the plays. did they bet out? did they move and accept the bets at a number, i don't know. i just know
the games moved before the release came. i contacted ed. and, honestly, never happened where i could notice again. doesn't mean he didn't change his out.
i remember there was talk years ago about the don best employees betting synducate plays of screen before they put the oves on the screen. when it comes to money, where there is a will, there's a way.....
 

cassiusclay

EOG Master
Re: EOG has gone totally downhiill, my post on RAS .............

i think either he or someone in his office bets his plays. there was a situation which i was able to see clearly as i was "in the house" that 5 minutes before the release all his plays moved. so, the out took
the plays. did they bet out? did they move and accept the bets at a number, i don't know. i just know
the games moved before the release came. i contacted ed. and, honestly, never happened where i could notice again. doesn't mean he didn't change his out.
i remember there was talk years ago about the don best employees betting synducate plays of screen before they put the oves on the screen. when it comes to money, where there is a will, there's a way.....

my grandfather was the sharpest guy i ever knew. he always would tell me to not be afraid to surround myself with people sharper/smarter than myself. he would say "you might feel like the dumbest guy in the room but you will always have a pocket full of money". he was right, information is king, the more connected/sharp people you know the better advantage you have.

:cheers
 
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"TOUTS" don't hit 56% over 2000 picks against widely available lines. "TOUTS" don't consistently crush the closing line by ridiculous averages."TOUTS" don't have fully transparent recordkeeping or keep play by play results readily available from past seasons.I could go on and on, but there is a big difference from the typical "TOUT" that is being talked about in this thread, and what RAS is. There are exceptions to everything. Pros and semi-pros use touts. Pros and semi-pros win following touts. These are facts.
The typical "TOUT" also doesn't go into business with a bank robber, giving said bank robber advance notice of the plays. I know your excuse is "it only happened for six weeks" as if that's any sort of an excuse. And it's not as if Baker wasn't already known as a criminal before you went into business with him, that was long after he used Beyond Capping passwords to hack into other accounts of theirs. The one thing Fezzik and RAS have in common is that both had an advertising relationship with 2+2 that was terminated because of various shady practices.
 
Re: EOG has gone totally downhiill, my post on RAS .............

It is true that is never an issue with a typical "TOUT" because their picks aren't worth betting in the first place. Ours clearly are.

Trying to get down more on our games without moving the lines with the wrong people in a in a naive/stupid manner. Guilty as charged.

FWIW, we never knew the details or scope of the password hacking or anyone's criminal background until way after. Our advertising with 2+2 wasn't terminated due to shady practices. We terminated it ourselves.
 

bernardoincr

EOG Dedicated
Re: EOG has gone totally downhiill, my post on RAS .............

cc agree with you 1.000.000 i know what i know and i know what i don't know. i am never hesitant to ask for help or counsel when i am in the dark.
 

High Times

EOG Master
Re: EOG has gone totally downhiill, my post on RAS .............

It is true that is never an issue with a typical "TOUT" because their picks aren't worth betting in the first place. Ours clearly are.

Trying to get down more on our games without moving the lines with the wrong people in a in a naive/stupid manner. Guilty as charged.

FWIW, we never knew the details or scope of the password hacking or anyone's criminal background until way after. Our advertising with 2+2 wasn't terminated due to shady practices. We terminated it ourselves.

A tout is a tout is a tout .....

:doh1
 

rainbow

EOG Master
Re: EOG has gone totally downhiill, my post on RAS .............

my grandfather was the sharpest guy i ever knew. he always would tell me to not be afraid to surround myself with people sharper/smarter than myself. he would say "you might feel like the dumbest guy in the room but you will always have a pocket full of money". he was right, information is king, the more connected/sharp people you know the better advantage you have.

:cheers
The SHARPEST post on this whole thread...
 
Re: EOG has gone totally downhiill, my post on RAS .............

The SHARPEST post on this whole thread...

of course yu would think that you believe in the tooth fairy too.

These things might be true around the track or maybe even a poker room but in the sportsbetting world it is overblown hype. The biggest irony is horses and dogs and any parimutuel stuff does have the best information, which doesnt make sense since betting it kills the odds for everyone. Unless of course you bet online, which would be moot if you were at the track surrounding yourself with these people.

But usually when you surround yourself with these types of people you ether get conflicting sides or everyone on the same side with shitty odds.
 

rainbow

EOG Master
Re: EOG has gone totally downhiill, my post on RAS .............

of course yu would think that you believe in the tooth fairy too.

These things might be true around the track or maybe even a poker room but in the sportsbetting world it is overblown hype. The biggest irony is horses and dogs and any parimutuel stuff does have the best information, which doesnt make sense since betting it kills the odds for everyone. Unless of course you bet online, which would be moot if you were at the track surrounding yourself with these people.

But usually when you surround yourself with these types of people you ether get conflicting sides or everyone on the same side with shitty odds.
I will take my info over your HANDICAPPING anyday of the week... In any MAJOR SPORT PERIOD.......
 

rainbow

EOG Master
Re: EOG has gone totally downhiill, my post on RAS .............

of course yu would think that you believe in the tooth fairy too.

These things might be true around the track or maybe even a poker room but in the sportsbetting world it is overblown hype. The biggest irony is horses and dogs and any parimutuel stuff does have the best information, which doesnt make sense since betting it kills the odds for everyone. Unless of course you bet online, which would be moot if you were at the track surrounding yourself with these people.

But usually when you surround yourself with these types of people you ether get conflicting sides or everyone on the same side with shitty odds.
PS: I don't get 2nd hand info, if you know what that means...LOL...
 

rainbow

EOG Master
Re: EOG has gone totally downhiill, my post on RAS .............

of course yu would think that you believe in the tooth fairy too.

These things might be true around the track or maybe even a poker room but in the sportsbetting world it is overblown hype. The biggest irony is horses and dogs and any parimutuel stuff does have the best information, which doesnt make sense since betting it kills the odds for everyone. Unless of course you bet online, which would be moot if you were at the track surrounding yourself with these people.

But usually when you surround yourself with these types of people you ether get conflicting sides or everyone on the same side with shitty odds.
Just remember one thing to put in that THICK SKULL HEAD that you have... When you beat the line you beat the game... Enuff said.......:+waving-5
 
Re: EOG has gone totally downhiill, my post on RAS .............

Don't know what Fezz is thinking.

Of course they go downhill. Whoever thinks there is any aspirational benefit to a sports gambling website?
 

rainbow

EOG Master
Re: EOG has gone totally downhiill, my post on RAS .............

Don't know what Fezz is thinking.

Of course they go downhill. Whoever thinks there is any aspirational benefit to a sports gambling website?
Thats all I know is if you beat the line you beat the game LONGTERM... IMPOSSIBLE to lose LONGTERM if you can...
 
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LONGTERM is the biggest crutch gamblers hang onto. "Well, I didn't win today, but LONGTERM, I am going to win."

I think casinos comp this thinking probably right up there with system players.

This won't end well.
 

rainbow

EOG Master
Re: EOG has gone totally downhiill, my post on RAS .............

LONGTERM is the biggest crutch gamblers hang onto. "Well, I didn't win today, but LONGTERM, I am going to win."

I think casinos comp this thinking probably right up there with system players.

This won't end well.
Put it this away I know guys thats been winning for over 20yrs. I guess they got lucky...LOL...
 
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Thats all I know is if you beat the line you beat the game LONGTERM... IMPOSSIBLE to lose LONGTERM if you can...

Since we have kept track:
RAS College Football
2008: Beat closing line on average by +2.65 points per pick.
2009: Beat closing line on average by +1.65 points per pick.
2010: Beat closing line on average by +2.27 points per pick.

RAS College Basketball
2008-09: Beat closing line on average by +1.63 points per pick.
2009-10: Beat closing line on average by +1.49 points per pick.
2010-11: Beat closing line on average by +1.30 points per pick.
 

Tuckman

Uh Poster
Re: EOG has gone totally downhiill, my post on RAS .............

When do you usually release your college football plays on average?
 

rainbow

EOG Master
Re: EOG has gone totally downhiill, my post on RAS .............

Since we have kept track:
RAS College Football
2008: Beat closing line on average by +2.65 points per pick.
2009: Beat closing line on average by +1.65 points per pick.
2010: Beat closing line on average by +2.27 points per pick.

RAS College Basketball
2008-09: Beat closing line on average by +1.63 points per pick.
2009-10: Beat closing line on average by +1.49 points per pick.
2010-11: Beat closing line on average by +1.30 points per pick.
Impossible to lose PERIOD... If your clients can get those exact numbers that you release, its noway they can lose LONGTERM...
 
Re: EOG has gone totally downhiill, my post on RAS .............

I cashed out over two years ago with a near 8 figure return over 15 years, I think that is more than enough to make me think I know what I am talking about. I also think my timing was perfect since that was really when sports betting started to shit the bed in a bad way. A lot of books had already been out of the US market for a couple years then too, but that didnt stop anyone with a brain from having an account with them. But that still made it hard to do really well those last couple years.

But to offer full disclosure some of the money was made from things I moved that werent directly related to gambling but were obtained with gambling winnings. So I suppose if I were BW and rainbow were testifying for me it would still count. So while it isnt 2 decades it was a decade and a half. So maybe I got lucky too.

Obviously some people will doubt it but a couple guys who used to pride themselves on being accountants somehow got my info at a couple books and they verified some of the stuff I did. But that was about 6-7 years ago so it was dated material, but still right about the peak of the good times. Also a few old school guys saw my house down in Newport Beach before I sold it (one of the acquisitions and sales I mentioned) so there were a few people who saw it. But like I say only believe half what you see. The greatest irony is the guys who think good information and the reality of people winning a lot of money is very possible are also the ones who will shout the loudest winning that much isnt possible. Which once again shows how completely clueless they are.

But I got out and never looked back. I just come on these sites to see the same shills and half wits preaching the same old story. And not a dime richer for it. But it makes for good entertainment nonetheless.

But there are talkers and there are doers. I did it. i didnt have to talk about it. Dont mind so much now since I am not doing it anymore although I have screwed around and scalped almost 20K in baseball, and that is just betting overnight lines with sad limits. So even pretending I make more than most guys who claim to be sharp. I just never felt the need to tout myself or my plays. or felt the need to throw plays around. I gave advice and gave insight into things I knew about people or what I thought of certain theories or strategies. I left the posting of plays to all the experts.

Although I did post plays at Covers for awhile in 2000-2001 but more to help those guys out than anything else. And it was Covers so what was the harm really?

So now I started my next series of conquests and have little time to fool around on the net. But I am basically retired at 43 and have other people do the work I need done. No stress, no worries, no negative things at all going on. Sit on the porch and feed the birds go pick an avocado or two off the tree or some oranges. Take a nap at 2 in the afternoon and call it a day.

That is really what people should look forward to. Because IMO the definition of 'success' is what you HAVE to do in order to survive, so the less you do the more of a success you have been. But that might just be my own self serving definition I am not sure. I thought I was semi successful when I was gambling and not doing all that much. But now that I dont even do that I realize I do a lot less now.

OK end of the self glossing, just saying it to make a point. That despite all the bullshit that gets thrown around and all the fairy tales people try to tell about the old school sharp insider type wise guys, making money from the mid/late 90s until a couple years ago was a very easy thing to do, as long as you had a brain and some money, and a little (lot)discipline. And actually staying away from the corrupt scumbags who claimed to be insiders was probably your best course of action. the internet was both a blessing and a curse to sports betting, it just depended on how you utilized it.

Anyway the few guys who have PMed me feel free to ask questions/opinions. I will post when I see something interesting or feel I can help stir the pot a little bit. Because lets face it it does get a little boring sometimes. Maybe I will get a dog....
 

rainbow

EOG Master
Re: EOG has gone totally downhiill, my post on RAS .............

Glad to see us finding some common ground.
This isn't rocket science for me... I've been in this business for a very longtime, one thing I LEARNED many years ago was that I wasn't going to feed WISEGUYS with SQUARES money... I will not move the line off of someone I know thats not going to win LONGTERM, I don't care how big of a decision we have on the game, I'm just not going to put a NAKED number out there unless I respect the play... Edward, I NEVER doubted you that you couldn't win LONGTERM, my whole beef was if your clients are betting bad numbers they are going to have a hard time to win... Good luck this year on your plays...
 

FISHHEAD

EOG Master
Re: EOG has gone totally downhiill, my post on RAS .............

The internet was both a blessing and a curse to sports betting, it just depended on how you utilized it.

WANTI, PERHAPS THE SHARPEST STATEMENT YOU'VE EVER MADE ON EOG.......
 

rainbow

EOG Master
Re: EOG has gone totally downhiill, my post on RAS .............

I cashed out over two years ago with a near 8 figure return over 15 years, I think that is more than enough to make me think I know what I am talking about. I also think my timing was perfect since that was really when sports betting started to shit the bed in a bad way. A lot of books had already been out of the US market for a couple years then too, but that didnt stop anyone with a brain from having an account with them. But that still made it hard to do really well those last couple years.

But to offer full disclosure some of the money was made from things I moved that werent directly related to gambling but were obtained with gambling winnings. So I suppose if I were BW and rainbow were testifying for me it would still count. So while it isnt 2 decades it was a decade and a half. So maybe I got lucky too.

Obviously some people will doubt it but a couple guys who used to pride themselves on being accountants somehow got my info at a couple books and they verified some of the stuff I did. But that was about 6-7 years ago so it was dated material, but still right about the peak of the good times. Also a few old school guys saw my house down in Newport Beach before I sold it (one of the acquisitions and sales I mentioned) so there were a few people who saw it. But like I say only believe half what you see. The greatest irony is the guys who think good information and the reality of people winning a lot of money is very possible are also the ones who will shout the loudest winning that much isnt possible. Which once again shows how completely clueless they are.

But I got out and never looked back. I just come on these sites to see the same shills and half wits preaching the same old story. And not a dime richer for it. But it makes for good entertainment nonetheless.

But there are talkers and there are doers. I did it. i didnt have to talk about it. Dont mind so much now since I am not doing it anymore although I have screwed around and scalped almost 20K in baseball, and that is just betting overnight lines with sad limits. So even pretending I make more than most guys who claim to be sharp. I just never felt the need to tout myself or my plays. or felt the need to throw plays around. I gave advice and gave insight into things I knew about people or what I thought of certain theories or strategies. I left the posting of plays to all the experts.

Although I did post plays at Covers for awhile in 2000-2001 but more to help those guys out than anything else. And it was Covers so what was the harm really?

So now I started my next series of conquests and have little time to fool around on the net. But I am basically retired at 43 and have other people do the work I need done. No stress, no worries, no negative things at all going on. Sit on the porch and feed the birds go pick an avocado or two off the tree or some oranges. Take a nap at 2 in the afternoon and call it a day.

That is really what people should look forward to. Because IMO the definition of 'success' is what you HAVE to do in order to survive, so the less you do the more of a success you have been. But that might just be my own self serving definition I am not sure. I thought I was semi successful when I was gambling and not doing all that much. But now that I dont even do that I realize I do a lot less now.

OK end of the self glossing, just saying it to make a point. That despite all the bullshit that gets thrown around and all the fairy tales people try to tell about the old school sharp insider type wise guys, making money from the mid/late 90s until a couple years ago was a very easy thing to do, as long as you had a brain and some money, and a little (lot)discipline. And actually staying away from the corrupt scumbags who claimed to be insiders was probably your best course of action. the internet was both a blessing and a curse to sports betting, it just depended on how you utilized it.

Anyway the few guys who have PMed me feel free to ask questions/opinions. I will post when I see something interesting or feel I can help stir the pot a little bit. Because lets face it it does get a little boring sometimes. Maybe I will get a dog....
You argued with me about 6yrs ago in a thread how I was WRONG for not moving the line off of SQUARE MONEY, right then and there I loss a lot of RESPECT for you, because you were 100% WRONG, anyone with a half a brain knows not to move the line off of squares period... One other thing BW still wins and he's not the LONE RANGER either, because you got out doesn't mean others can't still win... Different STROKES for different FOLKS..
 
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Edward, I NEVER doubted you that you couldn't win LONGTERM, my whole beef was if your clients are betting bad numbers they are going to have a hard time to win... Good luck this year on your plays...

Thanks. People are always going to take bad numbers, but the ones doing so now may or may not be my clients. Lots of people trying to follow the service plays without paying for it.

We go to great lengths to trying to help subscribers get the right number and how to handle it if they don't. Half of my customer service e-mails and phone calls are on this very topic. We will continue in this pursuit.
 
Re: EOG has gone totally downhiill, my post on RAS .............

You argued with me about 6yrs ago in a thread how I was WRONG for not moving the line off of SQUARE MONEY, right then and there I loss a lot of RESPECT for you, because you were 100% WRONG, anyone with a half a brain knows not to move the line off of squares period... One other thing BW still wins and he's not the LONE RANGER either, because you got out doesn't mean others can't still win... Different STROKES for different FOLKS..


Dont remember that one. But if you had way too much action one way and werent expecting any action the other you probably should have moved it. But then again your position at this book you always claim to work at is dubious at best. If youre a ticket writer then that makes sense, if you have control of what moves and what doesnt then..God help them I guess. But if a book has enough money so that they feel they can eat a loss if the squares get lucky so be it. Thats why so many have left the US or gone out of business. A total lack of business sense. But some can do it once in awhile, but those that thought they were too smart got buried. The list is long.

But yes I am sure guys do still make money, it is just a little(moderately) more difficult these days. A severe lack of outs and a severe lack of limits are the two biggest hurdles. But if you canget the money down at the right number every time you want to it is possible. the problem is, as we have discussed, constantly getting the best number/price for the same amount. if you cant that basically negates any money management one has.

As for Ed, I tried to edit my post but it timed out. He actually probably has my information. Although its been close to a dozen years. But I was one of the few guys who used to send him stuff on USC and UCLA back when it mattered. And when he was first trying to get his network going. So I didnt say I didnt like Ed, I just think he has turned to the darkside in his old age. Or maybe he was a little more idealistic in his youth. But information is only as good as what you do with it. And it doesnt always pan out. I remeber a few things about a couple of those teams I through his way, especially in the pre Pete Carroll days when they werent an automatic bet on team. But there were also a few times when they were dead during the Pete carroll days too. So it went both ways.
 

rainbow

EOG Master
Re: EOG has gone totally downhiill, my post on RAS .............

Dont remember that one. But if you had way too much action one way and werent expecting any action the other you probably should have moved it. But then again your position at this book you always claim to work at is dubious at best. If youre a ticket writer then that makes sense, if you have control of what moves and what doesnt then..God help them I guess. But if a book has enough money so that they feel they can eat a loss if the squares get lucky so be it. Thats why so many have left the US or gone out of business. A total lack of business sense. But some can do it once in awhile, but those that thought they were too smart got buried. The list is long.

I'm not a ticket writer LOL... A LOT have gone out of BUSINESS because of WISEGUYS... I can't EVER recall a book going under because of SQUARES. If a guy you know isn't going to beat you... Why would you EVER move the line off of him? If you do that you are in the WRONG BUSINESS PERIOD... Squares are my least concern, because I know they are the one's that puts the bread and butter on the table... Me and you think A LOT different when it comes to booking, but thats what makes the world go around we are all different...
 

Tuckman

Uh Poster
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this has ran its course? nobody cares anymore...
 
Re: EOG has gone totally downhiill, my post on RAS .............

dude you really need to work on your English or your typing, at this point i don't know what the source of the problem is.

heh.....failing to graduate from junior high English courses leaves one's future literacy in real doubt. But it doesn't stop an ambition to be a great taxi driver
 

rainbow

EOG Master
Re: EOG has gone totally downhiill, my post on RAS .............

I cashed out over two years ago with a near 8 figure return over 15 years, I think that is more than enough to make me think I know what I am talking about. I also think my timing was perfect since that was really when sports betting started to shit the bed in a bad way. A lot of books had already been out of the US market for a couple years then too, but that didnt stop anyone with a brain from having an account with them. But that still made it hard to do really well those last couple years.

But to offer full disclosure some of the money was made from things I moved that werent directly related to gambling but were obtained with gambling winnings. So I suppose if I were BW and rainbow were testifying for me it would still count. So while it isnt 2 decades it was a decade and a half. So maybe I got lucky too.

Obviously some people will doubt it but a couple guys who used to pride themselves on being accountants somehow got my info at a couple books and they verified some of the stuff I did. But that was about 6-7 years ago so it was dated material, but still right about the peak of the good times. Also a few old school guys saw my house down in Newport Beach before I sold it (one of the acquisitions and sales I mentioned) so there were a few people who saw it. But like I say only believe half what you see. The greatest irony is the guys who think good information and the reality of people winning a lot of money is very possible are also the ones who will shout the loudest winning that much isnt possible. Which once again shows how completely clueless they are.

But I got out and never looked back. I just come on these sites to see the same shills and half wits preaching the same old story. And not a dime richer for it. But it makes for good entertainment nonetheless.

But there are talkers and there are doers. I did it. i didnt have to talk about it. Dont mind so much now since I am not doing it anymore although I have screwed around and scalped almost 20K in baseball, and that is just betting overnight lines with sad limits. So even pretending I make more than most guys who claim to be sharp. I just never felt the need to tout myself or my plays. or felt the need to throw plays around. I gave advice and gave insight into things I knew about people or what I thought of certain theories or strategies. I left the posting of plays to all the experts.

Although I did post plays at Covers for awhile in 2000-2001 but more to help those guys out than anything else. And it was Covers so what was the harm really?

So now I started my next series of conquests and have little time to fool around on the net. But I am basically retired at 43 and have other people do the work I need done. No stress, no worries, no negative things at all going on. Sit on the porch and feed the birds go pick an avocado or two off the tree or some oranges. Take a nap at 2 in the afternoon and call it a day.

That is really what people should look forward to. Because IMO the definition of 'success' is what you HAVE to do in order to survive, so the less you do the more of a success you have been. But that might just be my own self serving definition I am not sure. I thought I was semi successful when I was gambling and not doing all that much. But now that I dont even do that I realize I do a lot less now.

OK end of the self glossing, just saying it to make a point. That despite all the bullshit that gets thrown around and all the fairy tales people try to tell about the old school sharp insider type wise guys, making money from the mid/late 90s until a couple years ago was a very easy thing to do, as long as you had a brain and some money, and a little (lot)discipline. And actually staying away from the corrupt scumbags who claimed to be insiders was probably your best course of action. the internet was both a blessing and a curse to sports betting, it just depended on how you utilized it.

Anyway the few guys who have PMed me feel free to ask questions/opinions. I will post when I see something interesting or feel I can help stir the pot a little bit. Because lets face it it does get a little boring sometimes. Maybe I will get a dog....
No one can get LUCKY and WIN 9 MILLION in 15yrs...LMAO...
 

IrishTim

EOG Dedicated
Re: EOG has gone totally downhiill, my post on RAS .............

I am sure you have the records or should of what you plays did against closers (or extremes AGAINST you), so you might want to rethink that statement.

When you give out so few plays it doesnt take much of a difference to change the results. I HATE talking percentages because that shit was made up by touts to try and prove they were hitting a high enough percentage to break the 52.38% rate it takes to beat the vig (at -110 of course). So they came up with "I can hit XXX%" Which is totally meaningless to most since they all weight plays differently which totally negates any sort of win percentage they can cite.

But for the sake of argument. You gave out 59 plays last year. They went a pretty decent 35-24. So do you have how many of those 35 winners would have been losers at any available number? But I will admit fading a 60% win rate no matter how much the lines moves wil be nearly impossible. But if youre hovering around a 54 or so rate it might not be that difficult to fade and win. Especially giving out so few selections and if someone uses creative techniques to maximize return.

No dog in the fight - never have subscribed to RAS as Ed can confirm - but why in the world would anyone fade a 54+% handicapper unless the line moved like 5 points? Do you know how much of a move it takes to go from 54+% to 47%? And RAS doesn't really ever weigh their plays differently, so them posting historical win rate is valid aside from small sample.

"Decent" 35-24 :+textinb3
 

IrishTim

EOG Dedicated
Re: EOG has gone totally downhiill, my post on RAS .............

LONGTERM is the biggest crutch gamblers hang onto. "Well, I didn't win today, but LONGTERM, I am going to win."

I think casinos comp this thinking probably right up there with system players.

This won't end well.

Isn't your post contradicting itself? You think a casino gives a shit if some high roller gets hot at the roulette table and wins 200k? No of course not, they know that all the money plus some will be funneled back to them. Similarly, do you think an advantage gambler cares if they go 0-3 tonight but beat the CL by an average 2 points?
 

rainbow

EOG Master
Re: EOG has gone totally downhiill, my post on RAS .............

Isn't your post contradicting itself? You think a casino gives a shit if some high roller gets hot at the roulette table and wins 200k? No of course not, they know that all the money plus some will be funneled back to them. Similarly, do you think an advantage gambler cares if they go 0-3 tonight but beat the CL by an average 2 points?
100% AGREE...
 

rainbow

EOG Master
Re: EOG has gone totally downhiill, my post on RAS .............

No dog in the fight - never have subscribed to RAS as Ed can confirm - but why in the world would anyone fade a 54+% handicapper unless the line moved like 5 points? Do you know how much of a move it takes to go from 54+% to 47%? And RAS doesn't really ever weigh their plays differently, so them posting historical win rate is valid aside from small sample.

"Decent" 35-24 :+textinb3
Thats the part I don't get, yet he claims he WON 9 Million in 15yrs... He must think he's the only that can win betting PERIOD...
 

rainbow

EOG Master
Re: EOG has gone totally downhiill, my post on RAS .............

No dog in the fight - never have subscribed to RAS as Ed can confirm - but why in the world would anyone fade a 54+% handicapper unless the line moved like 5 points? Do you know how much of a move it takes to go from 54+% to 47%? And RAS doesn't really ever weigh their plays differently, so them posting historical win rate is valid aside from small sample.

"Decent" 35-24 :+textinb3
Tim, I promise you I know guys that would eat him for lunch, and I'm not talking about BW either...
 

IrishTim

EOG Dedicated
Re: EOG has gone totally downhiill, my post on RAS .............

Dont remember that one. But if you had way too much action one way and werent expecting any action the other you probably should have moved it. But then again your position at this book you always claim to work at is dubious at best. If youre a ticket writer then that makes sense, if you have control of what moves and what doesnt then..God help them I guess. But if a book has enough money so that they feel they can eat a loss if the squares get lucky so be it. Thats why so many have left the US or gone out of business. A total lack of business sense. But some can do it once in awhile, but those that thought they were too smart got buried. The list is long.

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